Corn Syrup

Has anyone fermented corn syrup in whole or in part of a wash?

What kind of results were obtained?

Kinda curious if I could smooth out a sugar wash with some corn elements without having to mash. (Can't get corn here)

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  • Didn't know there was a part of the world where you couldn't get corn. See how much I know. Interesting.

  • edited October 2

    If you can ferment and distill sorghum syrup and call it whiskey, I don’t know why you can’t do the same with corn syrup.

    There are corn syrup grades that might be more useful for distilling. For example, high maltose corn syrup, which is probably the most ideal as fermentability is going to be maximal compared to the high fructose variants, which will probably stick like hell.

  • I read in a whiskey book it used to be called thin wash. I would do it here in Argentina but corn is cheap and corn syrup is not so cheap. But probably easier to use.

  • @Pa_bon said: Didn't know there was a part of the world where you couldn't get corn. See how much I know. Interesting.

    Not just exotic islands, even in Europe it's quite difficult to get corn that's good (and cheap!) enough to make whisky... Then again barley and wheat are abundant.

  • edited October 3

    Suspect the better corn syrups are going to be just as difficult to source. Likely only in bulk, importing IBC totes to keep it cost effective.

  • edited October 3

    Or just import cornmeal - which is very easy to source. I would imagine most bulk ingredient importers on the island can get it in 50lb sacks.

  • Will the hfcs throw a nice flavor?

  • edited October 3

    Try fermenting with it and let us know, I strongly suspect the high fructose levels will make for a stuck fermentation, worse than a sugar wash, worse than invert sugar.

    You will likely need to use high fructophilic index yeasts, which are primarily wine yeasts that have a sufficient amount of fructose sugar transporters in their cell walls.

    The easiest to find with a high fructophilic index is good ol' EC1118. But also Uvaferm 43, Lalvin C, QA23, etc.

    Probably want to push nutrient up towards the high end, and probably keep it around 7-8% max.

    The combination, however, of highly refined corn sugar, high percentage of fructose, and the need to use primarily wine yeast types, is going to push you further away from a typical whiskey profile. With EC1118 for example, I suspect you'll end up with a very light rummy flavor.

  • KARO corn syrup USA FOODs Melbourne.Works a treat.Use 3 16 oz bottles,1 kg liquid malt,12 kgs sugar and 2 1/2 teaspoons of bread yeast in 50 ltrs of water.

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