thats funny @Lloyd thanks for that I needed a laugh. But I do have some good news I just came back in from the shed. I ran my tester over all the wire's terns out there was a broken one. I must have broke it when I was stripping it out of the lead. Its probly a good thing it happen its a good leson for all the guys that might be following this build log on some of the simple things that can go rong. These 15 welding leads that I use have a very thick skin or what ever it is called.
Electricity is one of them things you cant see, smell or hear untill it is to late. In Australia it is illegal to do electrical work with out a licence. So this is one of them times you need to ask your self can you do this part of the job or do you need to seek help from a expert. If you are not sure what you are doing then I need to stop you and tell you need to get a electrician.
First thing first we are going to need a electrical schematic.
You might come across diffrent coulor wire's at home then what the above picture shows. So in the spirit of doing things right lets talk about what coulor wire's you might have.
So we have red black green and brown blue green.
A simple trick to remember what one is hot and what wire is cold.
Red is a hot coulor and so is brown. Think fire burnt.
I am not going to tell you how to read the schematic if you have made it this far you should know how to read. I'm just going to post a few pic's of what my job looks like on the inside.
When you screw down your SSR you MUST use thermal paste under it or your heat sink will not work.
I can see your cabinet base is earthed but earth the heatsink and cabinet door as well. It looks like your earth is riveted to the cabinet, according to Australian standards earths should be screwed and not riveted, so if it screwed then ok screw me lol.
sorry I have not done any more on this build. When I started out today I had plans of getting more work then what I have done today done. But then I cracked this keg of Bock beer and its all been down hill from there on in.
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Not saying you didn't @Drunkas. Just a nudge for folks to save that drawing as it could be useful for lots of things.
I'm trying to gather all the bits on the drawing so I can give it a go too :)
PID and SSR. I am not very happy with the way the pid mounts in to my box. It could come lose. It might be worth while looking in to getting one with better mounting brackets.
Awesome! Shame I can't order from eBay because I'm in China and all my credit cards have long since expired but the links do give me useful specs. Thanks @Drunkas
(Can't order because I don't have a valid CC anymore for my eBay account and I can't get a CC here without owning a house in my name so the password scare had no effect on me, though I should have also changed it to FullySilenced) + (I can get most everything here anyway).
@jonno is was a spur of the moment thing I saw it on ebay and said yep I will take one and that was about 3 months ago. I wish I had done more research on it now. At a later date I will rewire this PID to run in a still. But untill then I am going to use it as it is and lern what I can from it. I have only just started lerning about then in the last 2 days. I am thinking of using arduino for the next build but that will depend on weather I can fined people to help with the code.
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I know the feeling... memory card got stuck in my old camera and I was able to fix it so well that I now have a brand new camera!
thats funny @Lloyd thanks for that I needed a laugh. But I do have some good news I just came back in from the shed. I ran my tester over all the wire's terns out there was a broken one. I must have broke it when I was stripping it out of the lead. Its probly a good thing it happen its a good leson for all the guys that might be following this build log on some of the simple things that can go rong. These 15 welding leads that I use have a very thick skin or what ever it is called.
http://www.stilldragon.com.au/
Bit of a dodgy video showing it turned on
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPdmAOe4vKg
http://www.stilldragon.com.au/
All you have to do now is to program it for heating and air cooling for mash purposes, If you need help just let me know
thanks @olddog
http://www.stilldragon.com.au/
WARNING ELECTRICITY CAN KILL
Warning video contains very disturbing images. I would rate it M15+
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTIZRW-D1A0
I will not take any responsibility SD will not take any responsibility if you chose to wire up the control box your self.
http://www.stilldragon.com.au/
Electricity is one of them things you cant see, smell or hear untill it is to late. In Australia it is illegal to do electrical work with out a licence. So this is one of them times you need to ask your self can you do this part of the job or do you need to seek help from a expert. If you are not sure what you are doing then I need to stop you and tell you need to get a electrician.
First thing first we are going to need a electrical schematic.
http://www.stilldragon.com.au/
You might come across diffrent coulor wire's at home then what the above picture shows. So in the spirit of doing things right lets talk about what coulor wire's you might have.
So we have red black green and brown blue green.
A simple trick to remember what one is hot and what wire is cold. Red is a hot coulor and so is brown. Think fire burnt.
Black is a cool coulor and so is blue. cold.
Earth will be green with a yellow strip
http://www.stilldragon.com.au/
I am not going to tell you how to read the schematic if you have made it this far you should know how to read. I'm just going to post a few pic's of what my job looks like on the inside.
When you screw down your SSR you MUST use thermal paste under it or your heat sink will not work.
http://www.stilldragon.com.au/
I can see your cabinet base is earthed but earth the heatsink and cabinet door as well. It looks like your earth is riveted to the cabinet, according to Australian standards earths should be screwed and not riveted, so if it screwed then ok screw me lol.
ah thanks i will screew the bugger my heat sink is earthed but not the door again thanks
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You can make a better and safer job if you use crimp terminals on ALL connections
roger roger I will change out my terminals @olddog
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sorry I have not done any more on this build. When I started out today I had plans of getting more work then what I have done today done. But then I cracked this keg of Bock beer and its all been down hill from there on in.
http://www.stilldragon.com.au/
Please always keep the possible risks in mind when dealing with electricity, which makes me quote our disclaimer from our Terms of Service once again:
Your Place to be >>> www.StillDragon.org <<< Home of the StillDragon® Community Forum
That beer looks fantastic mate. I'm drinking two different infections atm. >:)
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I'm sure @olddogs basic circuit, shown here - 7th from the top of the page - would be useful for many things. Heating and cooling.
I thought I had credited @olddog for that my apology olddog. I would be stuffed with out @olddog's help with this build.
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Not saying you didn't @Drunkas. Just a nudge for folks to save that drawing as it could be useful for lots of things.
I'm trying to gather all the bits on the drawing so I can give it a go too :)
All the things I have used or still plan to use in this build. Every thing should be in 220v or 240v
Heat sink
TOP QUALITY Heat Sink for Solid State Relay SSR Up To 60A @ eBay ~ $9
On/off switch
2Pcs ON/OFF Twist 2 Position Selector Switch @ eBay ~ $14
Emergency stop
2Pcs Red Sign Emergency Stop Push Button 600V Switch @ eBay ~ $16
Alarm and red light
5Pcs Red LED Indicator Light & Buzzer 220V AC @ eBay ~ $24
Green signal light. These are different from the ones I used. I am not happy with mine they are not very bright.
10pcs 220V 22mm Green LED Power Indicator Signal Light @ eBay ~ $10
Yellow signal light
10pcs 220V 22mm Yellow LED Power Indicator Signal Light @ eBay ~ $10
PID and SSR. I am not very happy with the way the pid mounts in to my box. It could come lose. It might be worth while looking in to getting one with better mounting brackets.
100-240V AC Digital PID Temperature controller & 25A SSR & K thermocouple Sensor @ eBay ~$35
15 amp power lead
10 Meter 15amp Extra Heavy Duty Power Extension Cable Lead Cord 10m 15 amp @ eBay ~ $24
Steel box
FIRST AID MEDICAL CABINET KIT BOX STEEL LOCK AND KEY LARGE @ eBay ~ $70
or from Bunnings
Sandleford 310 x 450 x 150mm First Aid Box @ Bunnings ~ $60
I only used 1 of these
Single Screw Connectors - 100 Pack Electricial Supplies @ eBay ~ $18
Heat shrink
192pcs Assortment Ratio 2:1 Heat Shrink Tubing Tube Sleeving Wrap Wire Cable Kit @ eBay ~ $13
http://www.stilldragon.com.au/
Awesome! Shame I can't order from eBay because I'm in China and all my credit cards have long since expired but the links do give me useful specs. Thanks @Drunkas
(Can't order because I don't have a valid CC anymore for my eBay account and I can't get a CC here without owning a house in my name so the password scare had no effect on me, though I should have also changed it to FullySilenced) + (I can get most everything here anyway).
@Lloyd I think alot of that stuff is in china
http://www.stilldragon.com.au/
You should be able to get everything there, the shops we get it from, that's where they get it from. You get to cut out the middle men.
That's the plan but my problem is I don't always know what I'm looking at.
What is dead simple to an electronics guy is downright confusing to me.
The links above and the links that olddog sent to me do help though.
@Lloyd do you want some close up video of all the bits so you can get a better look at em
http://www.stilldragon.com.au/
Lloyd has got his own which I built for him.
Trust me, I open the controller door often trying to figure out which wire goes where and why.
@olddog ow yeah I forgot you built one for Lloyd
http://www.stilldragon.com.au/
@drunkas any reason you went with the r100 instead of an auberins pid? You happy to adjust the pid manually to each mash step?
@jonno is was a spur of the moment thing I saw it on ebay and said yep I will take one and that was about 3 months ago. I wish I had done more research on it now. At a later date I will rewire this PID to run in a still. But untill then I am going to use it as it is and lern what I can from it. I have only just started lerning about then in the last 2 days. I am thinking of using arduino for the next build but that will depend on weather I can fined people to help with the code.
http://www.stilldragon.com.au/